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 2x22 - The Wire 
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"The wire"
(Usadak)

Sezona: 2
Epizoda: 22
Datum premijere: 08.05.1994.
Prikazana na HRT-u: 05.12.2008.
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Scenarist: Robert Hewitt Wolfe
Redatelj: Kim Friedman
Gostujući glumci:
Andrew Robinson as Garak
Jimmie F. Skaggs as Boheeka
Ann Gillespie as Jabara
Paul Dooley as Enabran Tain

Stardate: nepoznat (2370)

Kratak sadržaj: (preuzeto sa ST centra)
Za vrijeme svog tjednog ručka s Bashirom, Garaka odjednom preplavljuje jaka bol. Kada zabrinuti Bashir ponudi svoju pomoć, Garak ljutito odbija ići u ambulantu i prekida njihov obrok. Kasnije Bashir načuje razgovor između Garaka i Quarka gdje Garak kako traži od Quarka da mu pribavi neku robu. Bashir se vraća poslu u ambulanti, i uskoro dobiva poziv od Quarka za pomoć u baru. Tamo nailazi na Garaka, vrlo pijanog i vidljivo bolesnog. Bashir opet pokušava nagovoriti Garaka da mu dopusti da ga pregleda, ali Kardasijanac odbija – sve dok ga bol ne slomi...
Detaljnije informacije:Memory Alpha

Kompletan scenarij: ST Minutiae

Background Information:
* Robert Hewitt Wolfe's original idea for this episode was to have Kira addicted to battle stimulants ever since her days in the Bajoran Resistance, but that idea was rejected because it would be difficult to do subsequent episodes with Kira without referencing the addiction and it was felt it could tarnish her character too much (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion)
* This episode was written as a bottle show.
* Andrew Robinson has said of this episode, "I wish there was more writing like that for television. I think we'd have a much healthier industry." (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion)
* This is the first DS9 episode to be directed by a woman: Kim Friedman. The producers were so impressed with her work that they brought her back to direct several crucial episodes, such as the season 2 finale, "The Jem'Hadar", the season 3 opener, "The Search, Part I", and the conclusion to the Michael Eddington/Maquis story arcs, "Blaze of Glory".
* Paul Dooley made his first appearance as Enabran Tain in this episode. This was originally intended to be his sole appearance, but, much like the situation with Andrew Robinson's Garak, the fans liked Tain so much, and the producers were so impressed with Dooley, that they decided to bring him back. (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion) He later reprised the role in "Improbable Cause", "The Die is Cast", and "In Purgatory's Shadow".
* When Tain first meets Bashir, he calls the doctor Julian Subatoi Bashir, the first and only mention of Bashir's middle name in the series. It is also the only time Bashir is addressed by rank, lieutenant, although Tain doesn't clarify it as "junior grade."
* Garak's claim that he and Elim were "the sons of Tain" hints at the fact that Enabran Tain is his father, which is revealed in "In Purgatory's Shadow".
* This is the first time Cardassia Prime is mentioned and the first time that the Cardassian homeworld is actually named.
* This also marks the first appearance of the Obsidian Order, which was going to be the Grey Order until the producers learned that Babylon 5 planned to introduce a group called the Grey Council and felt the names were too similar (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion).
* The war between the Klingons and Cardassians in Garak's novel foreshadows the events of "The Way of the Warrior" and the Klingon-Cardassian War.
* A line in the script but not contained in the finished episode would have revealed that Benjamin Sisko served at the Federation embassy on Romulus early in his career, where he befriended a Romulan member of the kitchen staff named "Stolpan." It was further revealed that Stolpan was arrested by the Tal Shiar for "political improprieties," and in response, Sisko was prepared to go to the Tal Shiar Headquarters and convince them to set him free, however, Sisko was eventually persuaded by Curzon Dax not to go.
* Although the producers were extremely happy with how this episode turned out, they were disappointed to discover that many fans felt let down because they hadn't learned anything new about Garak. Ira Steven Behr responds to this by saying, "That's such a misreading, a real refusal to see what the show was supposed to be about." Robert Hewitt Wolfe also feels that the episode reveals a lot more than fans gave it credit for; "When I was writing the story, the movie Schindler's List had just come out and Ira was saying , 'Maybe he was Schindler; maybe he was the guy who let the prisoners go.' And then it was, 'Maybe he wasn't; maybe he was the Butcher of Budapest.' So we just kept telling all these lies, and I think the truth lies somewhere in there. Maybe he did let people go. Maybe he did shoot down the ship. Who knows?" (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion).
* Garak and Bashir's exchange at the end of the episode appears to echo one of the koans of Discordianism, which goes as follows:

Malaclypse the Younger: Everything is true.
Greater Poop: Even false things?
Malaclypse the Younger: Even false things are true.

* Cirroc Lofton (Jake Sisko) does not appear in this episode.
* A script for this episode was sold off on the It's A Wrap! sale and auction on eBay.

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...na početku je Garak spomenuo vrstu koja ne priznaje vrijeme...
...baš bi bilo fora vidjeti organizaciju na njihovom planetu...

...spminje se da je Keiko otišla na Rigel IV ...
...ako me sječanje dobro služi... zar to nije zabranjen planet s TOS ere...
...kad su oni mutavi alieni zarobili kapeetana Pikea?
(možda se nešto promijenilo na toma planetu)

...Garak ima problema s usadkom u glavi...
...saznajemo malo više o Opsidijanskom redu...

...konačno i Garak progovori zašto je protjeran s Cardasije...
...samo koja je verzija točna... ? ...možda ni jedna... prosudite sami...

...ok, u koliko boja dolazi Kanar?
...obično je vrlo gusta smeđa tekučina...
...a kad ga je Tain naručio bila je plava tekučina u čaši... pa sam malo zbunjen....

...Julian odbija Garaka pustiti da umre...
...a spika ''vračam se za 52 sata'' mi je malo smiješna...
...kako je znao da će mu trebati 2 dana i 4 sata da dođe do više informacija o kardasijanskoj fiziologiji... ?
...6...

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Pridružen/a: pet 07 srp, 2006 6:44 pm
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Post Re: 2x22 - The Wire
Mr.bobo je napisao/la:
...a spika ''vračam se za 52 sata'' mi je malo smiješna...
...kako je znao da će mu trebati 2 dana i 4 sata da dođe do više informacija o kardasijanskoj fiziologiji... ?

Mislim da je to zato jer dan na Bajoru traje 26 sati, pa je mislio vracam se za dva dana

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...a , smetnuo sam s uma...
...zato trebamo komentirati što više...
...jer nam uvijek neki podatak nije na odmet... ;) :thumbs2:

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Volim ovakve gotovo mikroskopske opise nekih likova a garaka posebno , jos je i on sam poseban jer kaze dio istine kroz lazne price , mislim da se o nijednom liku nemoze vise saznat a vise neznat , kao o garaku :zubo:

Prvo je naprimjer elim bio njegov pobocnik kojeg je ubio , na kraju je bio prijatelj kojeg nije ubio neg je jadan elim morao gledat kako garak pusta bajorance na slobodu i na kraju kod prvog upoznavanja enabraina taina , saznajemo da je elim prvo ime od garaka :sesir2:

Julian je imao ipak dozu prijateljstva u garaku jer da to nije imao , nebi dobio nit pola istine ali nit istinite laze , koje su kako garak kaze najveca istina

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Of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?"
"My dear Doctor, they're all true."
"Even the lies?"
"Especially the lies."

- Garak and Bashir


Ona glavna istina je bila da garak nije samo krojac , nego da je garak jako mocna osoba , unatoc prividu njegove nevaznosti 8)

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captain je napisao/la:

Ona glavna istina je bila da garak nije samo krojac , nego da je garak jako mocna osoba , unatoc prividu njegove nevaznosti 8)


...točno... ipak još ima neke kontakte s Cardasijom, u kojima ih obavještava o novostima s postaje...
...on mi je više ko diplomat na tajnom zadatku...

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Post Re: 2x22 - The Wire
Prva DS9 epizoda koji je režirala žena :) koja je kasnije režirala i Jem Hadar i The Search epizode...

Garak je bio odličan kao i uvijek i nemam ništa puno za dodati :)

Prvo pojavljivanje Obsidian ordera \:D/ zanimljiv podatak iz background informacija je da se prvo trebao zvati Grey order ali je zvučalo preslično najavljenom B5 gray councilu :)

Odličan quote "Especially the lies" :mrgreen:

Mr.bobo je napisao/la:
...na početku je Garak spomenuo vrstu koja ne priznaje vrijeme...
Možda je i to lagao :mrgreen:

Mr.bobo je napisao/la:
...spminje se da je Keiko otišla na Rigel IV ...
...ako me sječanje dobro služi... zar to nije zabranjen planet s TOS ere...
...kad su oni mutavi alieni zarobili kapeetana Pikea?
(možda se nešto promijenilo na toma planetu)
To je Talos IV ;)
Ali zanimljivo pitanje - šta se je na kraju dogodilo s tim planetom, jesu li na kraju ukinuli zabranu ili ne... moguće je da su tu vrstu ("one s velikim pulsirajućim glavama") kasnije primili i u Federaciju :)

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